Jun 162011
 

This short article is inspired by the rising discontent that seems to be occurring within the gaming community regarding EA’s Origin Service.  While there are good and bad points on both sides, I wanted to bring this to the table to allow our readers to contribute their own thoughts into the comments (or our forum).

The posting that inspired this article came from here, where the Reddit user states:

Seriously r/gaming, you guys make all these complaints because you’re convinced EA is an “evil business” even though all of your main complaints are things VALVE does as well.

“Don’t limit your games to only Origin Digital Download!!!!”

Valve limits their games to Steam for Digital Downloads, as does any other company that owns a digital distribution client.

“All my games are already on Steam!!!”

Remember when Steam started allowing you to add your games that you’ve installed without steam? Yes, this will still be available with the new EA games you will download, and I’m sure it will also work on the EA Origin Client as well.

“I don’t want to have to download your program to get your games…”

You had to do this with Valve games… Double standards much?

Oh right, EA is an evil business. Right, and Valve is completely innocent of any malpractice.

“I’m not going to buy these games at all, and you shouldn’t either!”

Right, and you think that you have the right to get angry at people who will still buy the games they like. I happen to really enjoy most of the studios EA has partnerships with, stupid silly little things like a download client that will only end up saving me money and move everything away from overpriced physical copies is a good thing.

I’m sure you’re all going to try and pull up whatever you can about how stupid this is, but in the end you can all just admit that you’ve heard that EA is evil and Valve is talked up so much around here that when this shit hit the fan you all couldn’t help but try and feel like you know what the hell is going on, when truthfully you were just looking for another excuse to bash on one of the big three and praise the almighty Valve.

 

Instead of going into my own opinion on the matter, I thought it might be a bit fun and different to converse.  Leaving your thought here requires no registration – that will always be optional here.  If you wish to join the forums to speak there, the registration should be very quick and easy.

  22 Responses to “Origin vs. Steam”

  1. steam will be always better…

  2. Origin wil crash and burn. RIP BF3

  3. I know you are saying ea is doing the exact same as valve, but valve came up with steam long ago and it’s a great software where alle game devs can publish their games…if everyone did that you could have EVERY game disposable with only one program. Now there’s 2 programs witht he same purpose. And why? Because having battefield on steam wasn’t good enough so they had to make their own thing…EA sees Valve earning money on their great idea and software, so they make their own…I guess my point is..steam was here before origin, and it makes organizing and buying games easier…then EA does the same thing..pointless. Oh wait, money.

  4. “I don’t want to have to download your program to get your games…”

    You had to do this with Valve games… Double standards much?

    My argument to this is I don’t want to have to deal with a bunch of companies to get my games, if I go through only Valve that is a less chance of my CC info getting stolen and less of a hassle for me because I won’t have to sign in every time I want to play the game.

  5. Here’s the thing, ea has not had the best track record with both customer support nor third client software. Steam has proven it self to be dependable and steadfast. If EA wants to compete with that, more power to them, but I won’t be buying my games through origin where they have the right to cancel my licenses at there pleasure, (read the ula)

  6. Lets have a quick comparison.
    Good gamesfranshises ea has.
    battlefield need for speed ,fifa,madden,nba,sims,spore,command and conquer dragon age mass effect etc
    Valve has:
    half life and portal…. thats all.
    Steam sux and only lives because they have most of ea’s good games life bf need for speed spore dragon age(not any more)
    Id rather have an option to retail and digital like ea and not only digital

    • Are you crazy?
      Team Fortress 2 is the greatest FPS of all time. Left 4 Dead is freaking wonderful too. What about Counter Strike.
      All you need to do is look at this to know that EA have very little to do with Steams success:
      http://store.steampowered.com/stats/

      Open your eyes man!

    • Valve has Portal, Half-Life, Counter-Strike, Left 4 Dead, DoTA, Team Fortress and Day of Defeat. Each of those is better than any EA game other than maybe BF3. EA has more of a grip on the console market but people hate the things they do in an attempt to stop piracy on the PC. People like having all their games on one application and Steam came way before Origin. I personally think a good analogy is that Origin is like Bing, it’s brand new and still has some bugs where as Steam is like Google, it has been with us forever and has always been reliable and we have been using it for years. Valve also has much better customer service, I once contacted them about a problem and I got an almost immediate response and they gave me a free TF2 hat. EA took days to respond and didnt help me at all. Lastly Valve has the coolest CEO ever.

  7. This is a hard decision for me. I was happy with having all my games on Steam, not because I like steam, but because of the convenience. I am also extremely excited about Battlefield 3, so I’m torn. I AM getting Origin because of BF3, but I’m unsure if I want to get other games.

    I think I’ll do what I do with Xbox and PS3, I usually buy all my games on Xbox 360 unless PS3 has an exclusive. So I think I’ll buy Origin exclusives on Origin and buy everything else on Steam even if Origin has it too.

  8. So far my experience with Origin is pretty bleak. I’ve installed 2142 and Deadspace 2. In both instances i had to leave Origin and go research either patch information or bug fixes in order to play the game. With steam it doesn’t matter if the game has been out 5 minutes or 15 years, when you get the game DL’d its ready to go from minute one. Not so with Origin. The only games i’ll be getting on Origin are the ones I can’t get on steam. Shoot I may even buy a game twice that comes out later on steam just so i don’t have to jack with origin in the future.

  9. “Valve limits their games to Steam for Digital Downloads, as does any other company that owns a digital distribution client.”

    - Yes, but Origin currently only carries EA titles. Many of which are available on Steam. Steam carries games from many different publishers.

    “Remember when Steam started allowing you to add your games that you’ve installed without steam? Yes, this will still be available with the new EA games you will download, and I’m sure it will also work on the EA Origin Client as well.”

    - While true, some people prefer to have their games installed through Steam. That way, all of their auto-updates, achievements, reinstalls, etc, are all linked to one client and one account. If you simply add a non-steam game to steam, it does practically nothing compared to owning it through Steam.

    “You had to do this with Valve games… Double standards much? Oh right, EA is an evil business. Right, and Valve is completely innocent of any malpractice.”

    - The difference is I already have Steam, and it already works, the only reason I’d end up buying a game through Origin is because they chose to only put it on Origin. (Unless the price was significantly different. Which if it’s only $5.00 cheaper, I’d still buy it on Steam.) I wouldn’t claim Valve is innocent or anything, but I think people trust them more because they make great games, whereas EA is a publishing company that just sells good games.

    “Right, and you think that you have the right to get angry at people who will still buy the games they like. I happen to really enjoy most of the studios EA has partnerships with, stupid silly little things like a download client that will only end up saving me money and move everything away from overpriced physical copies is a good thing.”

    - I could care less where you buy your games from, I love a lot of the studios EA is with, I just don’t like EA. I didn’t have a good experience with their account system, because of that I try and avoid dealing with them. I’m not saying other people shouldn’t however. Also, I already moved away from physical copies since, oh I don’t know… Steam? XD

    “I’m sure you’re all going to try and pull up whatever you can about how stupid this is, but in the end you can all just admit that you’ve heard that EA is evil and Valve is talked up so much around here that when this deuce hit the fan you all couldn’t help but try and feel like you know what the hell is going on, when truthfully you were just looking for another excuse to bash on one of the big three and praise the almighty Valve.”

    - Eh, I don’t think this is stupid. I just think that you’re just as ignorant as everyone else on this subject. People have a right to like where they buy their games from, just like people should have the option to buy their games from somewhere else if it’s cheaper for them. No one of these services is better, it’s all just personal opinion, speculation, and fan-boy-ism.

    - My personal opinion is that I’ve yet to have a problem with Steam, whereas I’ve already had problems with EA in the past, even if they fixed these problems, unless they can give me a significant enough price drop that overpowers my lack of confidence in EA, and the convenience I already have with Steam, then I wont be moving. I’m also not happy with EA’s ULA.

    - Do keep in mind, people have a right to their opinions, it’s only when people start preaching that their opinions are fact do you have a problem.

  10. Hmm,
    Being a player of the newly released BF3, I can only help but give my input.

    Steam is an overall better client, deals are better, the program itself runs smoother, and it is the hub for all online distribution of games imo.
    -Great chat system
    -Great interface
    -Overall great community
    -Very user friendly.

    I was personally pissed when I had to download Origin for BF3 gameplay, the program itself is glitchy, sometimes kicks me offline, and for god sakes why a big name game has to launch from a weird browser option known as battle log is beyond me? You couldn’t just launch in game like all the normal people?!

    In my opinion EA is not so much a set of Nazis about their games as people claim them to be, but they are certainly a set of paranoid children, grasping at ever inch of the market they can get their hands on. Even if this means forcing us PC gamers to have to use their program for BF3, I will certainly always go back to steam for the majority of my games….

  11. What’s wrong with having multiple software\companies running the same system?.. I don’t complain when I have options between sprint, verizon, and att&t. If one place offers a game that I am interested for cheaper than the other guess where I’m going to buy it from? Competition is good for the costumers(you and I).

  12. Who gives a flying bugger what steam does. Two wrongs don’t make a right… you pigs

  13. Steam is my weapon of choice, the only reason I am getting Origin is because of BF3. I already play BFBC2 so downloading an extra program to play the Battlefield games is no big deal to me. But I do hate how Origin is setup and run, its like fagbo….i mean facebook for games.

  14. Biased article much? I don’t mind having a digital distribution service like Steam because it is better because it works. I don’t like EA’s Origin because it is patchy at best. Perfect reason to not like it. You could argue that Steam has had its hiccups when it was new, like Origin, but this is now and Steam is faultless, so why have one terrible service and one good one? If you are unhappy with your terrible AT&T, you can choose another provider. With Origin, you cant. Steam did wonders for the PC gaming market once accepted but sadly, Origin will only fragment it…

    Imagine all of the awesome indie games on Origin? Not likely

  15. ~The Good~
    Steam:
    Download any game you own even if you lost your physical copy.
    By digital copies at a cheaper price then physical.
    Keep track of your friends.
    Keep track of your games.
    Keep track of your gaming media.
    Create user profiles.
    Get gaming news.
    Community forums.
    3rd party support.
    Revolutionary when it was invented.

    Origin:
    Download any game you own even if you lost your physical copy.
    By digital copies at a cheaper price then physical.
    Keep track of your friends.
    Keep track of your games.
    Simple user interface.

    ~The Bad~
    Steam:
    More complicated interface. (I personally don’t like)
    annoying advertizements!
    Too unstable when it first came out.

    Origin:
    Lack of features.
    You need Origins to run BF3 but it still launches from a website? WTF?

    ~The Ugly~
    The choice to create origins may have been a direct result of activations using Steam for MW2.
    The “Money” excuse is irrelevant (ATM) because Steam gets money from sales and advertisements.
    Origins is created by EA and only sells EA’s games and has no advertizements so no money is being generated.

    Steam is better hands down “but” It took a long time to get to where it is today.
    When steam first appeared it was hated, almost unusable, and lead to many play-less days of HL2 because players could not connect to steam update servers.

    Origin is more stable then Steam when it was first released but has almost no features.
    As of now, Origins is a bare bones EA game organizer and nothing more.
    However, Origins is still in “Beta” so we have no idea what’s in store.

    ~Conclusion~
    As of now I have no issue with Origin.
    If it stays how it is, it will be pointless but still a waist of time to complain about it.
    If it stays stable and implements most, if not all, the features the features of Steam, without the annoying advertizements, I will be impressed.
    If it adds annoying advertizements like steam, with or without the other features, then people should be pissed off.

  16. Steam is just so much better. It’s very easy to operate, the games run better, downloads are fast and efficient, and so is the payment. Origin is so buggy that I only kept it for BF3. If EA keeps doing things like this, more people will begin to hate them. ORIGIN SUCKS, SIMPLY BECAUSE IT IS USELESS. IM REFRAINING FROM SWTOR BECAUSE IT’S EA ONLY!

  17. Ok first EA’s origin has no fucking customer support(for US yes but for peapole like me who live in Europe or Asia or Africa ,Australia the is no posibility to reach customer support without spending cash , for calls to theyr customer support center , the best part they don answer you have to wait hours for them to get to you.And when they do most of them don’t know what the fuck to do.).The Origin store page language is chosen by localising your ip right(You cant change the store page language without using proxy servers, the only language you can change is the origin program or the games but not the store page.)so why the fuck WHEN I LIVE IN LITHUANIA THE STORE PAGE IS IN SPANISH???!!!Thats unrespectful to my country and the country of Spain.It’s like saying “You dont live in USA , you live in Russia , because thats what the store page is saying”.The damn Origin crashes all the fucking time.It digs trough your hardware , if you complain about it int the EA forums or origin forums you get banned.Some peapole bought games using origin and they still havent gotten the validation link in theyr emails.A guys account got hacked , he asked for help becouse there isnt a possibility , like on steam to retrieve your account , still no fucking answer from EA.And the customer support calls u know how much that costs in my country???10 FUCKING $ FOR A MINUTE , AND U HAVE TO WAIT 1 HOUR IN LINE FOR THEM TO ANSWER AND THERE IS STILL THE POSSIBILITY THAT YOU WONT RECIEVE ANY HELPFUL INFORMATION.

    P.S. Sorry for the caps, bad english grammar, and for all the swears.Rage mode right now.

  18. I dont mind have another download client. Still Origin client are as it is now tottly crap, it crashe’s. I can’t even change my avatar on origin, it just crash everytime. Atleast what i expect is that it should work ALOT better.

  19. Bottom line is – “What is good for the gamer:” Steam and Origin both distribute games – only Origin distributes only EA games with intrusive privacy policies, egregious EULAS, bad support and bad DRM. Gamers want to shop for games not distribution, to allow the market to separate gamers from what they want is not a winning strategy for EA. From my perspective it is better for one company to be accountable to me for distribution from many developers. It is ridiculous to continue to support EA’s efforts to limit/charge for my choices no matter how good the games might be.

    EA should support good developers, stop paying out the nose to limit access to market and drop/improve DRM. Stop fighting with Steam, I am not paying for you to change the world only to distribute games.

  20. For me this didn’t become an issue until my Step-Daughter bought me a copy of Civilization. I then ran into Steam-Valve. I HATE it. I hate the idea of buying a disc at a store and being forced to download some secondary program to be able to play the paid for game! I feel the same about EA’s Origin. I do not want them on my system but need them if I want to play the games. This is very maddening. I got so fed up with the Steam-Valve that I deleted both it and the Civ game. Pity, I was following the series until then.

    So that everyone understands – I am not a fan of either of these programs and venomously speak against those that created them. I sincerely hope that their blood lines end this year!

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